With Jones’ Addition, Which WRs Get Cut?


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Pewter Report’s Scott Reynolds solutions your questions from the @PewterReport Twitter account every week within the Bucs Monday Mailbag. Submit your query to the Bucs Monday Mailbag every week through Twitter utilizing the hashtag #PRMailbag. Listed here are the questions we selected to reply for this week’s version.

QUESTION: Which WRs are at risk of not making the roster now that Julio Jones is on the crew?

ANSWER: The huge receivers who’re at risk of not making the crew are any ones who can’t discover a position on particular groups. The offseason addition of Russell Gage and Julio Jones signifies that the highest 4 receivers on the depth chart is not going to play particular groups. Neither Mike Evans nor Chris Godwin play on groups.

Bucs WR Deven Thompkins

Bucs WR Deven Thompkins – Picture by: Cliff Welch/PR

It looks like one of many receivers will emerge because the return specialist. Jaleon Darden appears to have the early lead with rookie Deven Thompkins and Scotty Miller additionally factoring within the return sport competitors. Tampa Bay will both preserve six or seven receivers relying on particular groups. That may make it troublesome for extra established gamers like Miller, Tyler Johnson and Breshad Perriman to stay round this yr.

But it surely does create an attention-grabbing state of affairs. Do the Bucs suppose they’ll stash a veteran receiver on their apply squad? Perriman had current stints with the New York Jets (2020) and Detroit (2021) earlier than signing with the Bucs once more. If he couldn’t stick to receiver-needy groups just like the Lions and Jets, he won’t be in demand once more after the preseason this yr. So a part of Tampa Bay’s technique in the case of roster cuts is likely to be to see which veterans they’ll stash on the apply squad.

The preseason will decide the final two or three spots, however I believe Cyril Grayson, Jr. finally ends up making a severe push for the 53. And I believe the opposite spot may come right down to both Darden or Thompkins. If the Bucs preserve seven receivers then Perriman, Johnson or Miller are in play, however there’s nonetheless loads of time for issues to vary.

QUESTION: Will Joe Tryon-Shoyinka have greater than 10 sacks? How does he evaluate to the Jason Pierre-Paul of 2020?

ANSWER: For starters, Jason Pierre-Paul had 9.5 sacks, 4 pressured fumbles, two fumble recoveries and two interceptions in 2020. He helped the Bucs win the Tremendous Bowl that yr, including two sacks within the postseason. However he was additionally Tampa Bay’s lone Professional Bowler. If Joe Tryon-Shoyinka had that sort of season in his second yr with the Bucs the crew could be thrilled. However that is likely to be a tall order in 2022.

After a four-sack rookie season, the Bucs are hopeful he can not less than double that manufacturing in his first yr as a full-time starter. It’s potential, as Tryon-Shoyinka has acquired rave opinions from his teammates and head coach Todd Bowles. He’s one of many quickest and most athletic edge rushers within the league. And he bought stronger within the offseason.

Throughout his rookie season JTS needed to play inside a superb deal in nickel rush protection on account of Pierre-Paul’s shoulder harm. Now he’ll see extra time at outdoors linebacker on third downs with the addition of defensive tackles Logan Corridor and Akiem Hicks. This could assist Tryon-Shoyinka grasp the sting rusher place as a result of he’ll have extra reps to arrange strikes towards offensive tackles in video games. Ten sacks shouldn’t be out of the realm of chance for Tryon-Shoyinka on account of his pace off the sting. He’ll simply must do a greater job of wrapping to make sure reaching double-digit sacks in 2022.

QUESTION: What have you ever seen and heard about Luke Goedeke? For a participant who’s theoretically vying for the beginning left guard job, it seems like we’ve heard virtually nothing about him up to now. And why do you suppose Brandon Walton is taking beginning LG snaps? Appeared that good to them, or one more reason?

ANSWER: Luke Goedeke, a second-round draft choose, has a methods to go earlier than he wins the beginning left guard spot. The Bucs like his potential, however he had a tough first day in pads on Monday. Goedeke didn’t fare properly in 1-on-1 go professional drills besides when going through fellow rookie Logan Corridor. In 11-on-11 drills, Goedeke bought blown up by nostril tackles Vita Vea and Rakeem Nunez-Roches in the identical apply interval.

Bucs NT Rakeem Nunez-Roches and G Luke Goedeke

Bucs NT Rakeem Nunez-Roches and G Luke Goedeke – Picture by: Cliff Welch/PR

Goedeke is making the adjustment from taking part in proper sort out at Central Michigan to left guard. The motion occurs a lot sooner inside with defensive tackles proper on prime of you off the snap. Goedeke does a superb job throwing his fingers and packs a bodily punch. However he wants to enhance his footwork and get sooner out of his stance. That can include extra apply reps.

Goedeke was blown up on one rep by nostril sort out Vita Vea and wound up on the bottom. He nearly took out Blaine Gabbert’s left knee within the course of. The veteran backup QB wasn’t completely satisfied in regards to the shut name and chucked the ball into the stands in an indication of frustration.

As for Brandon Walton, he was again at proper guard because the second string on Monday. Aaron Stinnie was again because the starter at left guard. Pat O’Connor had some good feedback about Walton’s sport in his most up-to-date Bucs Camp Diary. The battle for the left guard spot is way from over and Tampa Bay goes to provide as many gamers as potential a legit shot on the job.

QUESTION: The Bucs stated they only needed to check out everybody for LG however do you suppose Aaron Stinnie on the second crew at RG is backlash for the Ryan Jensen harm?

ANSWER: I believe that may have been a part of it. Maybe the Bucs needed to ship a message to Aaron Stinnie, who shoved Logan Corridor into Ryan Jensen’s knee on Thursday. Elevating Brandon Walton to the position of starter for 2 practices and demoting Stinnie to the backup proper guard might need had a stage of punitive punishment related to it.

On the identical time, Stinnie was again as the present starter at left guard on Monday. The Bucs need to get the very best participant within the lineup to interchange Ali Marpet. Stinnie has expertise, and sadly needed to be taught a lesson on apply etiquette at Jensen’s expense.

QUESTION: What’s the low down with Cam Brate? Since getting right here he has all the time delivered when requested. However with all this TE discuss recently I’m not listening to his title. He’s a low-key man, however will ultimately get uninterested in being missed.

ANSWER: Tom Brady definitely isn’t overlooking Cam Brate. The retirement of Rob Gronkowski has opened the door for the beginning tight finish place and Brate is squarely within the combine. Actually, he’s been the very best tight finish in camp up to now. Brate is aware of the offense and nonetheless strikes properly at age 31. With out Gronkowski the Bucs may use fewer two tight finish units and go together with extra three- and four-receiver units.

Newly signed Kyle Rudolph has clearly misplaced a step, and isn’t as fast as Brate is. Rudolph is larger and extra bodily and ought to be an asset as an inline blocker. That’s an space the place Brate is satisfactory, however doesn’t shine. Rudolph and Brate will battle to begin and for in-game reps.

Rookie Cade Otton has had an excellent begin to camp. He’s caught the ball properly up to now, and is probably a tick sooner than Brate. Otton might be the longer term on the tight finish place if he can win the No. 2 position – or not less than a wholesome share of taking part in time – as a rookie. The Bucs are excessive on him and imagine he might be a Day 3 draft steal. Time will inform.



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